Philosophy for our times: cutting edge debates and talks from the world's leading thinkers

Welcome to iai tv. You are limited to 20 minutes of video a month without signing up. X
Membership is completely free, and gives you unlimited access to our videos, articles, courses and much more
Already a member?
You have used half of your monthly limit of videos. Sign up to continue watching. X
Membership is completely free, and gives you unlimited access to our videos, articles, courses and much more
Already a member?
You’ve reached your monthly video limit.

Want to see more?

Sign up to continue watching. Membership is completely free, and gives you unlimited access to our videos, articles, courses and much more.
Already a member? .
IAI TV videos are for personal use only. For commercial or educational licensing please contact TVF International
  • The Debate

    After Democracy

    From the Russian mafia to global corporations, from Chinese leaders to Saudi princes, the world it would seem is run by oligarchies as much as democracy.  Should we be outraged or is democracy over-rated? Is there an ideal political framework or can Sparta be as valuable as Athens?

  • Find out more about speakers

Want to learn more about our speakers?
Join the conversation

to post comments or join now (only takes a moment). Don't have an account? Sign in with Facebook, Twitter or Google to get started:

George Orwell on 18/09/2012 7:17pm

Dunbar's an interesting choice on this panel. 3/4 of electorial victors have been the taller? There's a sense in which Dunbar's points do infringe upon the credibility of democracy, but only in some kind of abstract ideal form... i.e. a form we don't and will never hav3e...

... and more controversially, might there be a reason why taller people (perhaps, broadly, on average, caveat, caveat, etc) in fact DO have the qualities that we want in a leader? e.g. be more confident, more accustoned to being respected in social situations. For such an impressive anthropologist Dunbar;s awareness of the correlation-causation distinction is disappointing...

Joe LT on 18/09/2012 7:06pm

35:48 "The democractic bit comes when we have general election" - genius move by Mr Aaronovitch! Cutting remarks aside, there's something far more important embedded within David's comments there. How passive should democracy be? How active should it be? Well, don't think - just LOOK. Look at how active it IS, and how bothered we ARE. When we don't have enough, we fight for it, when we have it, we sit back just enough to let it stay at the right level. Any more, and we end up with everyone indeed being too involved in the 'business' of democracy - i.e. wasting their time unless something is actually wrong. And when it is wrong, we do make a big noise. And that noise counts as much as it needs to.

The Inquisitor on 06/03/2012 10:43am

David Aaronovitch is forced to start a debate on democracy by defining some of democracie's variants, surely that demonstrates straight away that it's a less than ideal concept?

Marco_Pomo_1984 on 02/03/2012 3:58pm

Dunbar's point about political success and height seems a little ridiculous. What about Napoleon?!

Copy and paste the code below to embed or link to this video.

Embed options
  • Video Seek
    Converted to a link which jumps to that point in the video
    Example: 00:34
  • Bold Text
    Example: [b]Bold[/b]
  • Italic Text
    Example: [i]Italics[/i]
  • Underlined Text
    Example: [u]Underlined[/u]
  • Website link
    Link to another website or URL
    Example: [url][/url]

Rate this talk with three clicks. You can choose 3 words, or vote for the same word 3 times.

Why sign up for the iai?
  • Discover new ideas
    Free and unlimited access to hundreds of hours of debates, talks and articles from the world's leading minds, as well as courses that rival top academic institutions.
  • Have your say
    Join the iai community and engage in conversation and debate around the issues that matter.
  • Hear it first
    Be the first to hear about our video releases, articles and tickets to our upcoming events.
Sign me up