Foodforthought on 27/03/2013 1:54pm
Some interesting comments here. It is certainly an interesting concept to have faith in something unknown, other, and to make it a skill or an art. I am reminded of an article I read today about meditation and how science has proven it to work in reducing stress and allowing clarity of thought and generally improving health and overall well being. It is certainly not a new idea, to focus our mind and energy in something other than ourselves in order to enhance ourselves - for thousands of years people have practised this in all manner of ways in different religions or cultures. So, in taking agnosticism out of the context of religion I see clear parallels with seemingly universal principles of looking outside ourselves - as well as looking within ourselves - to improve ourselves and, as Mark Vernon says, get a 'fuller life'. Maybe as Thoughtcentre says below we may even get closer to God in removing religious images? That is definitely food for thought...
David Morey on 07/02/2013 8:04pm
Mark Vernon does a great deal to improve the quality of the debate about the relationship between science and religion.
Thoughtcentre on 10/04/2012 10:51pm
Dionysius says that one can know God only when one comes to the moment when one knows nothing: the state of not-knowing is, in fact, the opening to enlightenment. By AGNOSIA he means what one of the most famous Upanishads, the KENOPANISHAD, says:
”It is conceived by him who conceives it not.
Who conceives it, knows it not.
It is not understood by those who understand it.
It is understood by those who understand it not.”
Surely those who claim knowledge of God... well, what do they have knowledge of? Surely whatever it is is not God... so it's taking them even farther from God - and just towards some image.
Chris on 07/02/2012 10:11am
I like how Vernon takes the 'agnostic spirit' out of a purely religious context here and gives it a broader ethical dimension - 'commitment to the unknown leads to a fuller life'.
Whilst it seems problematic to flesh out a position that is based on 'not knowing', the notion that there can be a skill, or an art, to it is interesting.
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