Solving the mystery of time

Time, the final frontier of mind

Time is a paradoxical mystery. For example, the present moment is both infinitely short and infinitely long, at the same time! To resolve this mystery, Bernardo Kastrup argues that time and space are not objective scaffoldings of the external world, but rather an internal cognitive interface that we use to interact with a purely mental, atemporal reality. That is, we create time and space within ourselves to better organise the information we collect about the world.

 

Star Trek got us used to thinking of humanity’s final frontier as a faraway region of space. Yet, the true final frontier of human knowledge may be much closer to home: it may be time, not space. And we don’t need to go anywhere to find it, for we already inhabit it. Time is so close to us that we cavalierly take it for granted and don’t even notice the yawning mystery it represents.

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John Fridinger 2 May 2023

Sorry for my last comment, was trying to make Bernardo’s words stand out using Unicode, but your system didn’t recognize the characters…


Bernardo… Re your words…

“…we can’t ever catch the present moment, even though we are—paradoxically—always in it. “

Not in it, we are IT…

“We live bang in the middle of eternity and have never lived anywhere else. “

Yes… AND…

“To realize this is the apotheosis of hard-nosed reason, not just romantic spiritual insight.”

“Hard-nosed reason” is still just and merely another map… And what you are mis-calling “romantic spiritual insight” is the actual terrain itself, realizing itself, in ever more and infinitely greater and greater (relative) ways…

As each of us and all of us, in all “our” myriad and various possibilities of expression, over “time”…

Time in this sense being the infinite and infinitely dimensional (unmeasurable in any dimension) “field” of all relationship... AKA relativity…

All of this existence in and as which we share these ever differentiating and infinitely overlapping experiences is NOTHING other than relationship…

Bernardo, you can stand on the edge of what I’ll call here for convenience the infinite precipice, and keep “cutting” your distance to it in half, forever… And forever “you” will remain only and mere conceptualization…

“Forever” in this context being merely “time,” as you are attempting to describe it, in more and greater ways than you can ever ever imagine…

Another way to say the same thing is you can play in the map rooms and upon the map tables “forever…”

It will remain always and forever (continuing this same understanding) be your choice…

Go out the door and truly disappear into this terrain you always and already are, or keep hanging out within the confines of the maps…

This IS the only real choice there ever truly is…

Until, perhaps in one of these infinite coexisting “moments,” so to speak, that you are still attempting to “grasp,” you choose fully and consciously differently…

Therein will begin, in and AS this experience you are presently calling yourself, a whole different kind of Journey…

Cheers… _/\_

John Fridinger 2 May 2023

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Not in it, we are IT…

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Yes… AND…

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“Hard-nosed reason” is still just and merely another map… And what you are mis-calling “romantic spiritual insight” is the actual terrain itself, realizing itself, in ever more and infinitely greater and greater (relative) ways…

As each of us and all of us, in all “our” myriad and various possibilities of expression, over “time”…

Time in this sense being the infinite and infinitely dimensional (unmeasurable in any dimension) “field” of all relationship... AKA relativity…

All of this existence in and as which we share these ever differentiating and infinitely overlapping experiences is NOTHING other than relationship…

Bernardo, you can stand on the edge of what I’ll call here for convenience the infinite precipice, and keep “cutting” your distance to it in half, forever… And forever “you” will remain only and mere conceptualization…

“Forever” in this context being merely “time,” as you are attempting to describe it, in more and greater ways than you can ever ever imagine…

Another way to say the same thing is you can play in the map rooms and upon the map tables “forever…”

It will remain always and forever (continuing this same understanding) be your choice…

Go out the door and truly disappear into this terrain you always and already are, or keep hanging out within the confines of the maps…

This IS the only real choice there ever truly is…

Until, perhaps in one of these infinite coexisting “moments,” so to speak, that you are still attempting to “grasp,” you choose fully and consciously differently…

Therein will begin, in and AS this experience you are presently calling yourself, a whole different kind of Journey…

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