Beyond the limits of reason

An interview with Simon Critchley

In this interview, I sit down with Simon Critchley, Hans Jonas Professor of Philosophy at The New School for Social Research in New York, to explore his provocative new book, On Mysticism. Drawing on medieval Christian figures like Julian of Norwich and Marguerite Porete, Critchley argues that ecstatic experience, intense love, and a willingness to be “outside oneself” can offer a counterbalance to the narrowly rational outlook dominant in modern philosophy. Throughout our conversation, he probes the boundaries of faith and reason, discuss the possibility of maintaining mysticism alongside science, and question the role of philosophy itself in shaping our cultural consciousness. What follows is only a short, edited extract from Critchley’s call for more openness, both in our thinking and our collective search for meaning. Link to the full interview.

 

Omari Edwards: You begin your book by contrasting Hamlet’s melancholic skepticism with the promise of mysticism. How would you define mysticism, and why did you choose Hamlet as the starting point for exploring it?

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I see Hamlet as the quintessential philosopher, melancholic, who is the cleverest person we could imagine. And he's sad, he's depressed.

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Simon Critchley: Mysticism is experience in its most intense form, experience in its most intense form. So what mysticism is about, who these mystics were, were people that were able to experience an intensity of aliveness and and love and a sense of being outside themselves, ecstasy. So, the subtitle of the book in in the UK is the experience of ecstasy. That sense of being outside oneself is really what I'm trying to say. That's the core of mystical experience. And we can, we can get there by pushing ourselves out of the way as much as possible.

I see Hamlet as the quintessential philosopher, melancholic, who is the cleverest person we could imagine. And he's sad, he's depressed, and his extraordinary intelligence leads to a melancholy. It leads, in his case, to the extinction of the capacity to love. I see that melancholy, rational, skeptical disposition all over the place in philosophy. And so mysticism poses a significant challenge to that and a different way of opening things up.

Analytic philosophy is often seen as radically opposed to mysticism and even its opposite. Do you think analytic philosophy is fundamentally flawed?

The modern idea of philosophy as a critical, rational and naturalistic practice... focus[es] very much on questions of its relationship to science, a kind of under laborer to science, as John Locke described it.

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Philosophers are quite awful people most of the time.

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Philosophy is now just a critical enterprise which I think at the edges flaps into a cynicism. It’s usually impossible to persuade philosophers of anything, in my experience and I’ve been doing this for 35 years, teaching—philosophers are quite awful people most of the time...

The promise of philosophy was not just analytical rigor. It was a kind of manic, divine love. That’s what you find in you know, in Plato’s Phaedrus, in the Symposium, and even in boring old Aristotle... a contemplative life would be the life of the gods.

 

What do you mean by saying that philosophers should cultivate openness?

I find that the modern idea of philosophy leads to an incredibly narrow understanding of philosophy. We end up misrecognizing the history of philosophy and imposing our current mode onto the historical accounts. So, the least we can do is trying to open our minds a little bit.

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Philosophy has to be part of culture. Philosophy isn’t something that takes place in a handful of academic departments.

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I think philosophers have got to be nimble, active, curious and and find ways of talking to people who are not like them, and that’s something which they can sometimes be pretty bad at.

Philosophy has to be part of culture. Philosophy isn’t something that takes place in a handful of academic departments. It requires imagination and courage on the part of people that think of themselves as philosophers.

 

You’ve challenged what you describe as the narrow “closure” of analytic philosophy. How do you see this closure manifesting in academia today, and what would genuine openness look like in practice?

[The book] was, you know, another way for me to attack philosophy or at least that narrow, analytical idea of philosophy. Possibly there are figures like Georges Bataille, Nietzsche, and Heidegger who have represented a significant challenge to that way of doing philosophy. What’s also most sad is that it makes the history of philosophy pretty much unrecognizable, because we just see everything through the lens of critical rationalism.”

 

Some would see your promotion of mysticism as merely theological. Would you agree, your final confessions at the end do get at some of your interest in the god question?

A lot of the people that I deal with in the book are medieval Christian mystics... It’s something you can find in hundreds, thousands of mystical practices, going back for as long as there have been human beings, in my view.

These mystics, though often challenging attracted genuine popular interest. They were not narcissists. They were exemplary people who were opening pathways to large-scale social transformation.

Teresa of Ávila, John of the Cross they’re doing something really dramatic, beginning new movements, new social movements. And the church had a judgment to make at that point: do we keep these people inside, or do we set fire to them?

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Kant gave us the model of the philosopher as the lawyer in the tribunal of reason.

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Can mysticism be maintained alongside the scientific rational world we are in?

Kant gave us the model of the philosopher as the lawyer in the tribunal of reason.  Who’s there protecting modern, secular, liberal conception of the world from fanaticism, enthusiasm, intoxication, ecstasy.

I think that leads to an incredibly narrow understanding of philosophy. We elevate intelligence and rationalism to produce a kind of skepticism, which I think at the edges flaps into a cynicism. Mysticism is a counter movement to that, and its core is the experience of love. We can experience it in a very day to day way in our aesthetic lives. The experience of music can be that experience of ecstasy.

 

With these insights, Critchley highlights both the challenges and possibilities of weaving mysticism into our scientific, skeptical age. On Mysticism propels us beyond the terrain of rationalism and into the realm of love, ecstasy, and radical openness. By merging medieval mystics with our modern dilemmas, he offers an antidote to our collective cynicism. If you’re ready to go deeper into his provocative ideas, tune in to the Philosophy for Our Times podcast for the full interview.

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